{"id":111396,"date":"2025-11-23T22:11:57","date_gmt":"2025-11-23T22:11:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/?p=111396"},"modified":"2025-11-23T22:11:57","modified_gmt":"2025-11-23T22:11:57","slug":"plan-de-trump-pour-lukraine-americains-et-ukrainiens-discutent-a-geneve-et-saluent-de-bons-progres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/?p=111396","title":{"rendered":"Plan de Trump pour l\u2019Ukraine\u00a0: Am\u00e9ricains et Ukrainiens discutent \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve et saluent de \u00ab\u00a0bons progr\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<div auto_robot_readability=\"126.63055254605\">\n          <!-- app\/web\/views\/partials\/article\/authors.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"authors latino-300b text-grey-600\">\n<p>  <span>Par\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"text-grey-800\" data-oncrawl-author=\"Le Nouvel Obs avec AFP\">Le Nouvel Obs avec AFP<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"d-flex flex-column flex-lg-row align-items-lg-center mt-4\" 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Andri\u00ef Iermak et le secr\u00e9taire d\u2019Etat am\u00e9ricain Marco Rubio \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve, le 23\u00a0novembre 2025. \"\/>      <\/source><\/picture><figcaption class=\"hook-media_figcaption\" auto_robot_readability=\"-21\">\n<p class=\"latino-100m text-grey-600\">\n            Le n\u00e9gociateur de Kiev Andri\u00ef Iermak et le secr\u00e9taire d\u2019Etat am\u00e9ricain Marco Rubio \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve, le 23\u00a0novembre 2025. \u00a0<span class=\"text-grey-600 ms-4\">FABRICE COFFRINI \/ AFP<\/span>        <\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/actions\/toolbar --><\/p>\n<div class=\"article__share d-flex align-items-center py-24 border-bottom  py-16 mb-16 border-bottom\" style=\"--border-color:#D9D9D9;\">\n<div class=\"d-flex flex-wrap gap-16\" auto_robot_readability=\"5.4432989690722\">\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/actions\/gift.volt --><\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/actions\/comment.volt --><\/p>\n<p>  <button 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Le pr\u00e9sident am\u00e9ricain a accus\u00e9 ce dimanche 23\u00a0novembre les dirigeants ukrainiens de ne faire preuve <em>\u00ab\u00a0d\u2019aucune gratitude\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> envers les Etats-Unis, alors que le secr\u00e9taire d\u2019Etat Marco Rubio rencontrait \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve une d\u00e9l\u00e9gation de Kiev dans l\u2019espoir de faire avancer le <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nouvelobs.com\/monde\/20251121.OBS109972\/guerre-en-ukraine-un-plan-de-paix-de-trump-qui-prevoit-de-nombreuses-concessions-a-la-russie.html\">plan du pr\u00e9sident am\u00e9ricain pour la paix en Ukraine<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\n<em>\u00ab\u00a0Les responsables ukrainiens n\u2019ont exprim\u00e9 aucune gratitude pour nos efforts\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a \u00e9crit le pr\u00e9sident am\u00e9ricain sur Truth Social, affirmant avoir <em>\u00ab\u00a0h\u00e9rit\u00e9 d\u2019une guerre qui n\u2019aurait jamais d\u00fb arriver\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>                                                  <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_media.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"latino-500b text-grey-600 pb-16\">A lire aussi<\/p>\n<article class=\"node__media-article d-flex justify-content-between gap-md-32 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\n<!-- partials\/article\/article-link.volt --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/monde\/20251122.OBS109998\/l-ukraine-va-entamer-des-consultations-en-suisse-avec-les-americains-pour-evoquer-un-futur-accord-de-paix-avec-moscou.html\" data-article-key=\"20251122.OBS109998\" class=\"link--box flex-grow-1\" data-piano=\"Page_Article,Lire_aussi,,Lien1,navigation\"><\/p>\n<article class=\"d-flex\" auto_robot_readability=\"2\">\n<div class=\"flex-shrink-0 me-24\">\n<picture>\n                <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20fill%3D%22%23e4e4e4%22%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20120%2080%27%20width%3D%22120%22%20height%3D%2280%22%3E%3Cpath%20d%3D%27M0%200h120v80H0z%27%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/11\/22\/0\/0\/4500\/3000\/120\/80\/75\/0\/5251ce3_upload-1-expq5fnm5ova-sipa-01240205-000023.jpg 1x,https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/11\/22\/0\/0\/4500\/3000\/240\/160\/50\/0\/5251ce3_upload-1-expq5fnm5ova-sipa-01240205-000023.jpg 2x\" width=\"120\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Le pr\u00e9sident ukrainien, Volodymyr Zelensky, lors d\u2019une visite officielle \u00e0 Madrid, en Espagne, le 18\u00a0novembre 2025.\"\/>\n      <\/picture>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"flex-1 d-flex flex-column justify-content-center\" auto_robot_readability=\"34\">\n<p class=\"latino-300r latino-lg-600m text-grey-800\">\n                    Plan am\u00e9ricain pour l\u2019Ukraine\u00a0: Trump ouvert \u00e0 la n\u00e9gociation, concessions \u00e0 la Russie critiqu\u00e9es\u2026 Le point avant des pourparlers \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve        <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p>      <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nJusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, rien ne filtre sur le contenu des pourparlers en Suisse sur ce plan en 28 points, qui vise \u00e0 mettre fin au conflit provoqu\u00e9 par pr\u00e8s de quatre ans d\u2019invasion russe. Mais le Marco Rubio et le n\u00e9gociateur de Kiev, Andriy Yermak, ont salu\u00e9 dimanche les <em>\u00ab\u00a0bons progr\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> dans les pourparlers. <em>\u00ab\u00a0Je pense que nous avons probablement eu la r\u00e9union la plus productive et significative jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent dans tout ce processus\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 Rubio aux journalistes, tout en soulignant que les d\u00e9l\u00e9gations allaient poursuivre leurs discussions dans la soir\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nLa version initiale du texte <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nouvelobs.com\/monde\/20251121.OBS109981\/une-vie-sans-liberte-l-ukraine-et-l-europe-sceptiques-devant-le-plan-americain-repousse-par-zelensky.html\">a suscit\u00e9 l\u2019opposition de Kiev et de ses alli\u00e9s europ\u00e9ens<\/a>, venus dimanche \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve pour \u00e9viter une paix en forme de capitulation. Salu\u00e9e par le pr\u00e9sident russe Vladimir Poutine, elle reprenait plusieurs exigences cl\u00e9s de Moscou\u00a0: que l\u2019Ukraine lui c\u00e8de des territoires, accepte de r\u00e9duire la taille de son arm\u00e9e et renonce \u00e0 int\u00e9grer l\u2019Otan. Tout en offrant des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 occidentales \u00e0 Kiev pour pr\u00e9venir toute nouvelle attaque russe. Le texte signifiait aussi la fin de l\u2019isolement de la Russie \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard du monde occidental avec sa r\u00e9int\u00e9gration au G8 et la lev\u00e9e progressive des sanctions.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"node__heading latino-800m latino-lg-1400e text-grey-800 pb-8 pb-md-16\">\n\u00ab\u00a0Priorit\u00e9s cl\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb<\/h2>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nL\u2019un des membres de la d\u00e9l\u00e9gation ukrainienne, Roustem Oumerov, \u00e0 la t\u00eate du Conseil de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 ukrainien, a estim\u00e9 dimanche que la nouvelle version du texte, que l\u2019AFP n\u2019a pas vue, <em>\u00ab\u00a0refl\u00e8te d\u00e9j\u00e0 la plupart des priorit\u00e9s cl\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> de Kiev. Le pr\u00e9sident ukrainien Volodymyr Zelensky a lui jug\u00e9 sur X <em>\u00ab\u00a0positif que la diplomatie ait \u00e9t\u00e9 raviv\u00e9e et que le dialogue puisse \u00eatre constructif\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, ajoutant\u00a0: <em>\u00ab\u00a0nous avons tous besoin d\u2019un r\u00e9sultat positif\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nPlus tard dans la soir\u00e9e, en r\u00e9ponse aux critiques du pr\u00e9sident am\u00e9ricain, il a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 qu\u2019il \u00e9tait <em>\u00ab\u00a0personnellement\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> reconnaissant envers Donald Trump. <em>\u00ab\u00a0L\u2019Ukraine est reconnaissante envers les Etats-Unis, envers chaque c\u0153ur am\u00e9ricain et personnellement envers le pr\u00e9sident Trump pour l\u2019aide qui, \u00e0 commencer par les Javelin<\/em> [des missiles antichar de fabrication am\u00e9ricaine, NDLR], <em>a sauv\u00e9 des vies ukrainiennes\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a-t-il \u00e9crit sur X.<\/p>\n<p>                                                  <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_media.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"latino-500b text-grey-600 pb-16\">A lire aussi<\/p>\n<article class=\"node__media-article d-flex justify-content-between gap-md-32 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\n<!-- partials\/article\/article-link.volt --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/monde\/20251114.OBS109767\/la-guerre-en-2026-vue-de-russie-essaims-de-drones-robotisation-fin-des-chars-quatre-lecons-de-deux-strateges-du-kremlin.html\" data-article-key=\"20251114.OBS109767\" class=\"link--box flex-grow-1\" data-piano=\"Page_Article,Lire_aussi,,Lien2,navigation\"><\/p>\n<article class=\"d-flex\" auto_robot_readability=\"2.5\">\n<div class=\"flex-shrink-0 me-24\">\n<picture>\n                <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20fill%3D%22%23e4e4e4%22%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20120%2080%27%20width%3D%22120%22%20height%3D%2280%22%3E%3Cpath%20d%3D%27M0%200h120v80H0z%27%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/11\/07\/582\/335\/7383\/4922\/120\/80\/75\/0\/1064bec_ftp-import-images-1-9x5wq0xieboj-afp-83ax6kg.jpg 1x,https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/11\/07\/582\/335\/7383\/4922\/240\/160\/50\/0\/1064bec_ftp-import-images-1-9x5wq0xieboj-afp-83ax6kg.jpg 2x\" width=\"120\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Des soldats ukrainiens lors d\u2019un exercice de simulation d\u2019une attaque de drone, dans l\u2019est de l\u2019Ukraine, le 11\u00a0octobre 2025.\"\/>\n      <\/picture>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"flex-1 d-flex flex-column justify-content-center\" auto_robot_readability=\"35\">\n<p class=\"latino-300r latino-lg-600m text-grey-800\">\n                      <strong class=\"latino-300b latino-lg-600m text-grey-500\">D\u00e9cryptage\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\n                    La guerre en 2026\u00a0vue de Russie\u00a0: essaims de drones, robotisation, fin des chars\u2026 Quatre\u00a0le\u00e7ons de deux strat\u00e8ges du Kremlin        <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p>      <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nDonald Trump avait donn\u00e9 jusqu\u2019au 27\u00a0novembre \u00e0 son homologue ukrainien pour r\u00e9pondre, mais il a indiqu\u00e9 samedi que son plan ne constituait pas sa <em>\u00ab\u00a0derni\u00e8re offre\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> pour r\u00e9gler le conflit. Ce texte <em>\u00ab\u00a0pr\u00e9sente un cadre solide de n\u00e9gociations. Il se fonde sur des \u00e9l\u00e9ments fournis par la partie russe mais \u00e9galement sur des apports de l\u2019Ukraine\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a compl\u00e9t\u00e9 Marco Rubio sur X.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nA Gen\u00e8ve, Andriy Yermak s\u2019est \u00e9galement entretenu avec des repr\u00e9sentants du Royaume-Uni, de la France et de l\u2019Allemagne. Une nouvelle r\u00e9union bilat\u00e9rale s\u2019est d\u00e9roul\u00e9e dans l\u2019apr\u00e8s-midi entre Am\u00e9ricains et Ukrainiens au sein de la Repr\u00e9sentation am\u00e9ricaine \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve, proche de l\u2019ONU. <em>\u00ab\u00a0Ils vont r\u00e9gler les d\u00e9tails de l\u2019accord\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a indiqu\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019AFP un responsable am\u00e9ricain.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"node__heading latino-800m latino-lg-1400e text-grey-800 pb-8 pb-md-16\">\nTractations<\/h2>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nMais le chancelier allemand Friedrich Merz s\u2019est dit lui <em>\u00ab\u00a0sceptique\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> sur les chances de parvenir \u00e0 un accord sur le plan d\u2019ici le 27\u00a0novembre. <em>\u00ab\u00a0La t\u00e2che consiste d\u00e9sormais \u00e0 faire du plan [\u2026] un document viable\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a encore d\u00e9clar\u00e9 Friedrich Merz, lors du sommet du G20 \u00e0 Johannesburg. Il a indiqu\u00e9 avoir fait une proposition, actuellement en discussion \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve, qui pourrait permettre de <em>\u00ab\u00a0faire au moins un premier pas jeudi\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nLes Europ\u00e9ens cherchent par tous les moyens \u00e0 ne pas \u00eatre tenus \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cart des tractations autour du plan. <em>\u00ab\u00a0L\u2019Ukraine doit avoir la libert\u00e9 et le droit souverain de choisir son propre destin. Elle a choisi un destin europ\u00e9en\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a affirm\u00e9 dimanche la pr\u00e9sidente de la Commission Ursula von der Leyen, soulignant que le r\u00f4le <em>\u00ab\u00a0central\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> de l\u2019Union europ\u00e9enne doit \u00eatre <em>\u00ab\u00a0pleinement reconnu\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> dans tout plan de paix sur l\u2019Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>                                                  <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_media.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"latino-500b text-grey-600 pb-16\">A lire aussi<\/p>\n<article class=\"node__media-article d-flex justify-content-between gap-md-32 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\n<!-- partials\/article\/article-link.volt --><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/monde\/20251024.OBS109093\/l-ue-cassera-t-elle-la-tirelire-des-210-milliards-de-poutine-pour-aider-l-ukraine-pourquoi-le-premier-ministre-belge-freine-le-deblocage-des-avoirs-russes.html\" data-article-key=\"20251024.OBS109093\" class=\"link--box flex-grow-1\" data-piano=\"Page_Article,Lire_aussi,,Lien3,navigation\"><\/p>\n<article class=\"d-flex\" auto_robot_readability=\"1.5\">\n<div class=\"flex-shrink-0 me-24\">\n<picture>\n                <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20fill%3D%22%23e4e4e4%22%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20120%2080%27%20width%3D%22120%22%20height%3D%2280%22%3E%3Cpath%20d%3D%27M0%200h120v80H0z%27%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/10\/23\/0\/0\/8256\/5504\/120\/80\/75\/0\/f33a0d1_ftp-import-images-1-6obkjprw2j3h-afp-79px8w7.jpg 1x,https:\/\/focus.nouvelobs.com\/2025\/10\/23\/0\/0\/8256\/5504\/240\/160\/50\/0\/f33a0d1_ftp-import-images-1-6obkjprw2j3h-afp-79px8w7.jpg 2x\" width=\"120\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Le Premier ministre belge Bart De Wever \u00e0 son arriv\u00e9e au Conseil europ\u00e9en, \u00e0 Bruxelles, le 23\u00a0octobre 2025.\"\/>\n      <\/picture>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"flex-1 d-flex flex-column justify-content-center\" auto_robot_readability=\"33\">\n<p class=\"latino-300r latino-lg-600m text-grey-800\">\n                      <strong class=\"latino-300b latino-lg-600m text-grey-500\">Analyse\u00a0<\/strong><br \/>\n                    L\u2019UE cassera-t-elle la tirelire des 210\u00a0milliards de Poutine pour aider l\u2019Ukraine\u00a0? Pourquoi le Premier ministre belge freine le d\u00e9blocage des avoirs russes        <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p>      <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\n<em>\u00ab\u00a0Notre objectif partag\u00e9 est d\u2019obtenir une paix robuste. Il faut donc des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 solides\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, a indiqu\u00e9 pour sa part \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve la d\u00e9l\u00e9gation fran\u00e7aise \u00e0 l\u2019AFP.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nR\u00e9unis au sommet du G20 \u00e0 Johannesburg, 11 pays principalement europ\u00e9ens ont estim\u00e9 samedi dans une d\u00e9claration que le plan am\u00e9ricain <em>\u00ab\u00a0requerra du travail suppl\u00e9mentaire\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, craignant qu\u2019il ne laisse l\u2019Ukraine <em>\u00ab\u00a0vuln\u00e9rable \u00e0 de futures attaques\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>          <!-- partials\/article\/node.volt --><br \/>\n<!-- partials\/article\/node_text.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"node__paragraphe antonia-750r text-grey-800 pb-24 pb-md-32\">\nUne r\u00e9union sur l\u2019Ukraine des dirigeants des pays de l\u2019UE est pr\u00e9vue lundi, en marge d\u2019un sommet avec des dirigeants africains en Angola. Le pr\u00e9sident fran\u00e7ais Emmanuel Macron a annonc\u00e9 une r\u00e9union mardi en visioconf\u00e9rence des pays soutenant l\u2019Ukraine. Selon lui, sans <em>\u00ab\u00a0\u00e9l\u00e9ments de dissuasion, les Russes reviendront\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"article__author pb-32\" auto_robot_readability=\"32\">\n    <!-- app\/web\/views\/partials\/article\/authors.volt --><\/p>\n<p class=\"authors latino-600m text-grey-800\">\n<p>  <span>Par\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\nLe Nouvel Obs avec AFP<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nouvelobs.com\/monde\/20251123.OBS110034\/plan-de-trump-pour-l-ukraine-americains-et-ukrainiens-discutent-a-geneve-et-saluent-de-bons-progres.html\">source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par\u00a0 Le Nouvel Obs avec AFP Publi\u00e9 le\u00a023 novembre 2025 \u00e0 19h54 Lecture\u00a0:\u00a03\u00a0min. Le n\u00e9gociateur de Kiev Andri\u00ef Iermak et le secr\u00e9taire d\u2019Etat am\u00e9ricain Marco Rubio \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve, le 23\u00a0novembre 2025. \u00a0FABRICE COFFRINI \/ AFP Lire\u00a0plus\u00a0tard Google Actualit\u00e9s Partager Facebook Bluesky E-mail Copier le lien Envoyer S\u2019abonner L\u2019ombre de Donald Trump a, comme \u00e0 l\u2019accoutum\u00e9e, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":111397,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[75],"tags":[],"coauthors":[77],"class_list":["post-111396","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-monde"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/111396","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=111396"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/111396\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/111397"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=111396"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=111396"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=111396"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pressactu.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcoauthors&post=111396"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}